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15 inch rims and tyre options

Post by yatisr » Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:19 am

Hi everyone,

As 185/70/R13 tyres are getting increasingly hard to find in Malaysia, I will probably have to upgrade to 15 inch rims sooner rather than later. I have three questions that I hope the Forum can help me answer:

(a) Firstly, what is a reasonable price for a refurbished set of original Alpina 15 inch rims?;
(b) Secondly, will Oz Racing Alpina style 15 inch rims with an offset of ET12 fit the E21?;
(c) Are there any other 15 inch rim options for the E21 that can be installed without spacers?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: 15 inch rims

Post by Jeroen » Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:34 am

Hi Yatis,

13" is becoming rare, but 15" is on the same path. Good rubber is also getting rare in the recommended 15" E21 sizes.

a. Over here in Europe used sets of 15" Alpina's easily fetch 1200+ Euros and a refurb set therefore is 2k plus these days
b. 7J ET 12 does fit indeed
c. yes, there are more low offset wheel sets like from BBS, Mahle, MIM, King that fit straight away. Most E30 wheels don't fit though, offset is too high
For more details see the FAQ section http://www.bmwe21.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=18256
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Re: 15 inch rims

Post by yatisr » Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:32 am

Thanks Jeroen for your comprehensive and very useful reply.
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Re: 15 inch rims

Post by Jeroen » Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:47 am

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Re: 15 inch rims

Post by petroscf » Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:05 am

This really is a problem, and I also was thinking of opening a thread on that, but focusing on rubber, so here I may appear a bit out of subject, but I guess I am pointing on the same matter: One of the reasons I also switched to 15" (from factory 13" and later 14"x6") was, apart from the cooler (to my eyes) looks, the wrong belief that it would be easier to find variety of tires.
So what people with 15" wheels do now, I would be curious to know, do all of you go for Toyo Proxes ? Ok, It seems that Toyo is our friend here, but I really would love to have some options to choose from)
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Re: 15 inch rims

Post by Jeroen » Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:37 am

Personally I am no fan of the regular Toyo stuff like T1-R and T1-S, even though I truly love the R1-R but that's not your average everyday road tire haha. As this has been causing issues for some time already, especially if you want to get the same model both in 195 fronts and 205 rears. I recently fitted the Hankook Ventus Prime3 K125 on the E21 and coming back from the annual Eifel trip we had a true flood on the roads and it still kept wel, absolutely one of the favorites and well above average at the least.

Alternatives are Uniroyal Rainsport and Vredestein Sportrac but to my experience these perform slightly worse in the wet and the Vredestein is comfortable but (therefore) not communicative enough, at least to my liking. Conti only has the older PremiumContact2 available in the right sizes which really is aging.

There may be some others from Federal, Kumho and Fulda but usually I rate these lower than the models mentioned above.

It is getting more difficult and the real sporty performers aren't there anymore but at least we have some options left and I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the relatively cheap Hankooks.

BTW modified topic title slightly as this starts to become a useful thread for others with wheel and tyre challenges as well haha!
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Re: 15 inch rims

Post by petroscf » Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:01 am

Jeroen wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:37 am
Conti only has the older PremiumContact2 available in the right sizes which really is aging.
Jeroen, by "aging" I suppose you mean that Continental still produces a tyre of a bit past technology, yes? Not that one who orders a set of Conti Premium Contact 2, won't be getting fresh tyres, I hope...!!
Then, I wonder: what is so wrong with "aging" ? After all, it is a tyre with a technology at least 30 years newer than the tyres available when E21s were under production, am I not right?
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Re: 15 inch rims and tyre options

Post by Jeroen » Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:03 am

THese tyres were designed some 10 years ago and this model is known for handling deteriorating rapidly when about halfway worn due to a different rubber compound, I have experienced this myself as well. So I cannot think of a reason why you should buy this model unless it is way cheaper than everything else. And even then I'd not choose price over quality.
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Re: 15 inch rims and tyre options

Post by petroscf » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:15 am

ok I wasn't aware of this, anyway I am quite happy with proxes, they do have a tendancy to play a bit, but haven't so far any other serious issues
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Re: ALPINA wheels 6/7 x15

Post by petroscf » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:45 am

Are these tyres (Bridgestone Potenza Adrenalin RE002: front 195/50/R15, back 205/50/R15 ) and in these dimensions combination still available from the manufacturer? Sorry to intrude post without intention to buy, but I am very curious, I couldn't find any seller selling them in these dimensions
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Re: 15 inch rims and tyre options

Post by Jeroen » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:41 am

Moved Petros' post to a more appropriate topic.

I had those RE002's under my daily driver and I didn't like them too much, they are suffering a bit from the ecoblaster effect we see on most tyres these days. Going for eco aspects like durability and noise production rather than roadholding and or communication. I am a fan of most Bridgestone tyres but I really found these no more than average, especially on roadholding, and then they are too pricey in my opinion and I wouldn't buy them again. So I stick to my advice of Jan 29, but the choice is yours of course!
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Re: 15 inch rims and tyre options

Post by petroscf » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:48 pm

Ok thanks Jeroen!
Hahaha I won't be replacing tyres before 1 year and half-2 years from now, however, if, by then, there is nothing exceptional in the air, I guess that although I am quite happy with Proxes, I will try the Hankooks!
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