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Euro 316 - which engine?

Post by guerciotti » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:04 pm

Hi all,
Today I bought a lovely e21 316 in Alpine white in Lisbon. From the various online service sites the build date is Sept 1980 from the VIN.

The car is a facelift model with a single plastic door mirror and the revised dash.

The question I have is what engine does it have - 1.6 or 1.8?

From the bmwe21.net 'history' site this implies that since it is a facelift model then it has a 1.8 however the certificate I have from the Portuguese 'certificate of historic interest' states it is a 1.6. The handbook that I got with the car only has specs for the 1.6 however the illustrations in the handbook are of pre-facelift cars.

Is it possible that some early facelift cars left the factory with the 1.6 engine?

Thanks in advance



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Re: Euro 316 - which engine?

Post by Jeroen » Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:11 am

Welcome here! If the build date is Sep 1980 it is not likely to be a 1.6, but the chassis number should be able to give you the decisive info.
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Re: Euro 316 - which engine?

Post by uwbuurman » Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:34 am

Indeed. Can you provide the chassisnumber? My money is on the 1.8.
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Re: Euro 316 - which engine?

Post by guerciotti » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:25 am

Thanks - I'll check it later today and let you know.

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Re: Euro 316 - which engine?

Post by guerciotti » Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:01 pm

uwbuurman - I've sent you a PM with the info. Thanks again

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Re: Euro 316 - which engine?

Post by Mihajlo » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:11 pm

read the code on the engine...
I guess it is 1.8l engine
prefacelift cars 315 and 316 had 1.6l engine and 318 had 1.8l engine
facelift 315 1.6, and 316i and 318i 1.8l engine...
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Re: Euro 316 - which engine?

Post by uwbuurman » Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:49 am

Checked the vin, Car should be a 1.8 indeed. Like Mihajlo says, next step is indeed to read the code on the engine, to be sure. It will be under some rust and grease. Just brush that off.
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Re: Euro 316 - which engine?

Post by Jeroen » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:18 am

M10 so firewall side near the gearbox bell housing, I'll try to post an example
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Post by Jeroen » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:20 am

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Re: Euro 316 - which engine?

Post by uwbuurman » Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:24 pm

Where 18 means 1.8 and 16 obviously 1.6.
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Re: Euro 316 - which engine?

Post by guerciotti » Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:58 pm

Thanks all

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Re: Euro 316 - which engine?

Post by guerciotti » Wed May 15, 2019 2:16 pm

Hi,
I belatedly got round to confirming the engine code yesterday (it was obscured by the air filter and the number had lots of rust on it so I waited until I had the air filter off). The code read '16' on the first line then '7048693' below. The cylinder head is also marked with E21 1.6 (again this was hidden by the air filter).

So it looks like there is a 1.6 engine there even though as a facelift car it should have a 1.8 and despite the fact that it should have a 1.8 according to the VIN.

Interesting isn't it..?

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Re: Euro 316 - which engine?

Post by Jeroen » Wed May 15, 2019 3:20 pm

Guess what, the number belongs to a Sep 80 production 316 which is exactly the month they did the changeover, so yes, it is possible it is one of the very last 1.6 316's ever produced.
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