Hardeman Motorsport - motorsport parts and diff specialist

1983 316- RESURRECTION

Share the story on your car, and photos!
Post Reply
rob0r
E21 Pro
Posts: 770
Joined: Sat May 20, 2006 6:03 pm
Location: Colchester/Sudbury

Post by rob0r » Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:43 pm

Well my subframe is fully welded now and the engine is spot on position wise 8)

Pictures after a clean and some paint.


ImageImage

rob0r
E21 Pro
Posts: 770
Joined: Sat May 20, 2006 6:03 pm
Location: Colchester/Sudbury

Post by rob0r » Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:07 pm

Subframe
Here we are, my custom M50 subframe adapted from a the original 4 cylinder one.

Image

Image

Image

Image

New bits
I love it when I get new bits! First up my quick rack from Jason.

Image

Then a put in an order from Rally Design for the coilover bits. 8" 400lbs 2 1/4" springs, coilover conversion kit and coilover spanner. I've already sorted my struts and the threads are ready to be welded on.

Image

I also got a battery box to go in the boot from Rally design.

Image
ImageImage

User avatar
tommi_e21
E21 Mad
Posts: 1536
Joined: Fri May 16, 2008 2:31 am
Location: letchworth sg61hy

Post by tommi_e21 » Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:52 am

sweet coilover kit, im ordering mine soon as i get cash. please do right up on that with lots o pics

rob0r
E21 Pro
Posts: 770
Joined: Sat May 20, 2006 6:03 pm
Location: Colchester/Sudbury

Post by rob0r » Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:15 am

No worries, it's really easy!

Rob
ImageImage

rob0r
E21 Pro
Posts: 770
Joined: Sat May 20, 2006 6:03 pm
Location: Colchester/Sudbury

Post by rob0r » Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:27 pm

Hit a snag, I didn't really think about strut size differences between my 316 legs and my coilover converted 323i ones. I'd planned to use my short spax dampers but I think I can't really get away with the size difference, and it looks like short sports dampers are £100 each :evil: :evil: :evil: I'll get some photos of what I've done so far.
ImageImage

rob0r
E21 Pro
Posts: 770
Joined: Sat May 20, 2006 6:03 pm
Location: Colchester/Sudbury

Post by rob0r » Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:39 am

I'm still thoroughly annoyed with my unplanned shock dilemma, what I'm going to do is unsure just yet. Done a few more bits.

Mounted my quickrack on my subframe, ready to be fitted to the car.
Image

My new engine mounts arrived in the post 8) £9 for four. I could probably just drill them and fit them, but I'm probably going to get the pucks skimmed to the level of the E21 M20 mounts I used to create my subframe mounts. I need to drill them and get some M10 threaded rod (easily got on ebay) and they're good to go.
Image

Image

Oh, and I might be doing something with this 323i open diff...
Image

I really need to get around to ordering my pedalbox since when the engine is next removed I can redo all the hydraulic lines I've crushed and bent, well I might as do the whole damn car since I'm getting rear discs and the petrol tanks are off the car.
ImageImage

User avatar
Jason_323i
E21 Pro
Posts: 756
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:43 pm
Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/#!/e21jason
Location: Dubai UAE

Post by Jason_323i » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:15 am

Rob

I think that tall mount may move left to right I would weld a web onto it to stiffen it

Jason
BMW e21 race car supercharged s14 cage and fabrication by www.chizfab.com
Z3M Coupe
2.8 Z3 Coupe
Caterham Supersport
Clio 172 Cup factory race car(50%)
Ferrari 348 Challenge track car

rob0r
E21 Pro
Posts: 770
Joined: Sat May 20, 2006 6:03 pm
Location: Colchester/Sudbury

Post by rob0r » Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:45 am

Good thinking really, a few others have suggested the same and it doesn't hurt. I've braced both open sides and welded against the subframe wall. I was going to do one downwards diagonally towards the engine but there was actually much room to place the brace. I won't post up my braces as my welding wasn't pretty this time!

My coilover dilemma has gone even further now. I've had the coilover sleeves welded onto my 323i struts and instead of paying £230+ for E21 dampers I'm going to pay £60 for bilstein B6/8s off an E30 and cut the struts. I'm getting an engineering firm to do this as I can't tig, and I wouldn't trust myself! Bonus is that the E30 shocks will be sitting at around the right height even though it will be much lower on the E21 itself, all round win and I'll be saving about £80-90. But in preparation to do this I've had to cut the coilover sleeve off again and ground off the welds! Very pointless and I've learnt my lesson to check my shocks first...
ImageImage

rob0r
E21 Pro
Posts: 770
Joined: Sat May 20, 2006 6:03 pm
Location: Colchester/Sudbury

Post by rob0r » Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:03 am

The engine is now bolted in 8). Glad to of reached this milestone, so for the rest of the evening I spent messing around and putting the grille back on.

Exhaust
Image

Inlet
Image

yerrssss!
Image

Strut brace still fits, you may recognise it Jason
Image

I actually quite like it! Fits quite well on the hella grille
Image

Problems on the horizon with the steering link/exhaust manifolds
Image

Image

My struts are at the engineers and should be done in the next coming weeks, then the beast can roll again. I saw a scab at the end of the sill near the rear axle mounting pin, shouldn't of picked it as it exposed quite a big hole I wasn't expecting :roll:
ImageImage

rob0r
E21 Pro
Posts: 770
Joined: Sat May 20, 2006 6:03 pm
Location: Colchester/Sudbury

Post by rob0r » Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:26 pm

I got my struts back today from the engineers. They have had a section removed underneath where the coilover thread now sits and the struts were rewelded to keep the shock collar threads in place. I'm extremely pleased with how they've turned out and the quality of the guys work is great. I've tried to compare them to standard struts to get a better idea of what's gone on. The shocks are E30 bilstein b6s.

Image

Image

Good penetration, has stuck out into where the strut sits but this is irrelevant to me because of the shocks I'm using are designed to be thinner than the strut housing.
Image

Height difference, 4 cylinder strut in comparison.
Image

Built up and compared to another 4 cyl strut, spring heights are a complete guess right now. Top mounts are standard items for the time being, until I can afford some adjustable stuff.
Image

Painted
Image
ImageImage

User avatar
ac/dennis
E21 VIP
E21 VIP
Posts: 1434
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:03 pm
Location: Holland, Deventer
Contact:

Post by ac/dennis » Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:37 pm

Cool!

Youre getting there!

User avatar
murran
E21 Pro
Posts: 1309
Joined: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:20 pm
Location: sheffield

Post by murran » Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:41 pm

wow those are really really really cool! 8) loving them infact! :lol:

how much in total were they?

can you get some more done? ill buy them off you as a finished item, plus £40 for your trouble! :D

and no im not joking! :shock:
Image
Jeroen wrote:Bmwe21.net, for all your insurance solutions :P

drjim
E21 VIP
E21 VIP
Posts: 1084
Joined: Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:32 pm
Location: Manchester Uk

Post by drjim » Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:46 pm

Murran, be careful or you'll end up with a proper track car and have to learn how to go round bends without skidding.

RE engine mountings - I have a load of hockey pucks which I'm sure to find a use for somewhere on the slug . :lol:
1983 316 Pustergrun - track sluG!
1982 Saphirblau Baur 325i

Cars all gone!

User avatar
murran
E21 Pro
Posts: 1309
Joined: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:20 pm
Location: sheffield

Post by murran » Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:39 pm

jim it does go round corners pretty well as it is (without opposite lock!). you do realise when we meet up im taking you for a ride round the block somewhere without other road users. :twisted: :lol:

after catching my exhaust on another speed hump for the 100000 time today....... id like to notch it up about 20mm on the front for daily driving.


rob..... that pic with the 323i diff........ you wernt thinking of welding it up were you?
you do realise that a kitten dies every time a diff gets welded?
also that the dessimation of the sea horse population off the coast of spain has been directly linked to the diff welding phenomana? :shock: :shock:
Last edited by murran on Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Image
Jeroen wrote:Bmwe21.net, for all your insurance solutions :P

drjim
E21 VIP
E21 VIP
Posts: 1084
Joined: Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:32 pm
Location: Manchester Uk

Post by drjim » Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:44 pm

Suspected that would be the case - thus I keep mytrackday helmet at the workshop ready for the day!!!
1983 316 Pustergrun - track sluG!
1982 Saphirblau Baur 325i

Cars all gone!

Post Reply