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Re: Are lsd diffs supposed to be a bit noisier than open one

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:48 am
by Mihajlo
yes, that is the sound..
and I guess it is normal on cars that have 30year behind them...

you can try swapping entire diff case to check for sure if diff is the problem.
it is 1h job I guess.

Re: Are lsd diffs supposed to be a bit noisier than open one

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:43 pm
by petroscf
So you don't think it might be the gearbox, but the diff
Shouldn't a diff sound still be present at same speeds with neutral or when pressing the clutch?

Re: Are lsd diffs supposed to be a bit noisier than open one

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:31 pm
by Mihajlo
my diff was making sound only when accelerating or keeping speed.
when I was deccelerating sound was... well there was no sound at all in that case

Re: Are lsd diffs supposed to be a bit noisier than open one

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:59 pm
by petroscf
So you mean only when you had some gear "plugged", but not when you pressed the clutch (but speed was the same )

Re: Are lsd diffs supposed to be a bit noisier than open one

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:30 pm
by petroscf
If its a diff producing noises, shouldn't a noise continue, at a given speed, even when clutch is pressed? As long as rear wheels are turning?

Re: Are lsd diffs supposed to be a bit noisier than open one

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:36 pm
by Mihajlo
my diff made noise only when loaded
if I was runing 100kmph and pressed the clutch, there was no sound

here
I remembered my old videos :)
when loaded
https://youtu.be/ZDgCkUygp1g
and unloaded
https://youtu.be/80q7WKYpgpo

Re: Are lsd diffs supposed to be a bit noisier than open one

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 8:19 am
by petroscf
Thanks!
And what was the cause finally? Pinion? Bearings?

Re: Are lsd diffs supposed to be a bit noisier than open one

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 12:51 pm
by Mihajlo
ring and pinion were slightly worn out.

I replaced whole diff case with another one.

Re: Are lsd diffs supposed to be a bit noisier than open one

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 5:53 pm
by petroscf
It 's good to know
If ring and pinion wear is my case as well, then I think it's an easier replacement than taking out and opening again the gearbox for inspection etc

Re: Are lsd diffs supposed to be a bit noisier than open one

Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 1:05 pm
by Mihajlo
any updates?

Re: Are lsd diffs supposed to be a bit noisier than open one

Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 1:26 pm
by petroscf
No I 'm afraid.
Haven't had the time to look into the matter. It might take some time before I proceed to some opening because I should first decide whether I prefer the current 11-40 ratio (3.64) or, in case I replace ring and pinion, I might consider fitting a 11-38 ratio (3.45)
(just think that with the current ratio, with 3rd gear iirc I don't reach 100kph!!)

However, here's some update:

After the above discussion, I tried to identify once again when exactly I do hear the howling (or whining?) sound:

SO, as I already wrote, only if I have gear plugged in (especially 3rd-4th-5th), but the noise stops not only when I press the clutch, it also is not heard when I just take my foot off the gas pedal (even with gear in, and the car at speed) -this last one I think I have not mentioned so far (and maybe it helps better to figure out if it is the diff or the gearbox?)

Re: Are lsd diffs supposed to be a bit noisier than open one

Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 7:49 pm
by Jeroen
So it is only under load, which doesn't rule out either of them. How fresh is your propshaft support bearing? Once had a noisy one, found out by using a lot of WD40 on it after which all was quiet again :P

Re: Are lsd diffs supposed to be a bit noisier than open one

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 8:39 am
by petroscf
Will have to raise the car again.
Now 1st things 1st, we have an MOT to pass, after that I will start looking into the matter

Re: Are lsd diffs supposed to be a bit noisier than open one

Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 11:55 am
by Mikelead
For me, if the diff noise is a constant wine, it's worn pinion or diff bearings, if noise is load sensitive then it's worn gears.

The lsd is irellevant as it's only working during cornering.
Mike

Re: Are lsd diffs supposed to be a bit noisier than open one

Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 8:12 pm
by Jeroen
I had a whine which was way louder under load with my LSD and it turned out to be the ring and pinion