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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:55 pm
by Tomba
--ALPINA-- wrote:Whats it like with LPG? do you notice the fuel consumption is less? and also the power on LPG over petrol, do you feel any loss in power?
Sorry for the late reply but was a bit busy during the week.

LPG on the 2002...

Fuel consumption


8,5km for 1l LPG 1:8,5 (5.3mls for 1l LPG 1:5.3). I want to see how much difference I get with knock control (hope to get it working in the weekend). Because LPG has a higher octane number you can advance the ignition. Most people say because LPG the engine runs hotter but thats because theres no knock control advancing the ignition. Therefore; igntiting the mixture to late cause hotter engine! During my study we tested the same vehicle on petrol and LPG and the exhaust temperature was lower on LPG (car with knock control). That temperature is comparable with the combustion temperature (relative).

The best way is to retard the ignition before 2200rpm (back-fire) and advance it above 2200 rpm (compared to petrol). For the exact numbers Ill have to get in my books again... (which I'm planning to do). Keep you guys updated on this.

Power

Because I have to create a vacuum before the gas/air mixer the power is down on LPG :(. On petrol with an open air filter the gain is much higher, I expect at least 20-30% in torque. I barely rev it to +5.000rpm due to the long intakes from the 318i E30. So peak power I don't know. Last time when the air intake exploded due to a back-fire it was way more fun to drive than on LPG :).

Next thing is to install injected LPG (liquid). I can get rid of the "blocked" air filter.


Thanks for the links Alpina/j. Really helpfull understanding what things you did. If you need help with MegaSquirt PM me.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:56 pm
by Tomba
VerDi wrote:I'm looking for someone to put my M20B27 on stand alone and get some more hp out of it, candidates? :-)
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: PM me 8)

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:38 pm
by --ALPINA--
Tomba wrote:Thanks for the links Alpina/j. Really helpfull understanding what things you did. If you need help with MegaSquirt PM me.
Interesting!!! also appreciated :wink: top man!!


j

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 10:20 pm
by Tomba
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/alpina ... -road.html


let you know


@ alpina: got tunerpro and moates 2.0 emulating rocks.... galleto and other stuff is on ist way...

Thank you guys very much!

e21 is now on wintersleep, shall post pic's soon.....

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 10:34 pm
by --ALPINA--
Tomba wrote:http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/alpina ... -road.html


let you know


@ alpina: got tunerpro and moates 2.0 emulating rocks.... galleto and other stuff is on ist way...

Thank you guys very much!

e21 is now on wintersleep, shall post pic's soon.....
Excellent, do let us know how it all runs and also some pictures would be sweet as theres alot of guys here that would like to know the next level up from Motronic for more power!!!

J

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 10:36 pm
by Tomba
shall do mate, again thanks....!

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:03 am
by JJGBMW323
Nice car, its seems like you did a good job with it....