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Group2/rally shell prep specification.
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 3:45 pm
by pandemonium001
i am looking for specific instructions for the preperation of the E21 shell.
I can find plenty for the escorts and like, but is there a booklet or anything for the e21.
Re: Group2/rally shell prep specification.
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 3:50 pm
by pandemonium001
Re: Group2/rally shell prep specification.
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 7:32 pm
by Jason_323i
Nope
Just experience common sense plus they are better built than a escort
Weld a tube between the front chassis rail,under the rad as you can flex them by hand if you swing on the arb's
Seam weld between the towers
And from my own experience of hard coolers and track days to find where the shell cracks
Seam weld around the rear bulkhead
Tie the cage to the b post
Reinforce the rear top mounts
Additional diff mount (anybody tried an e36 small case rear cover)
Copy the escort tension strut set up
Re: Group2/rally shell prep specification.
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:33 pm
by pandemonium001
Thanks Jason, thats most of what i thought anyway,
I dont plan on fitting a cage,
strut tops just like the e36?
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-3440- ... t-kit.aspx
double diff mount was on the plan anyway, possibly make a sandwich plate to double mount the E21 diff, but the e36 one is a good idea.
please see my thread on 4cylinder section and any improvments i could make, please comment.
Thanks
Re: Group2/rally shell prep specification.
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:14 pm
by e21-Mark
Why are you not fitting a cage?
I have a pal down here in Cornwall, who has a fully prepped s50/3.0 powered rally e21. I'm going to take some photos this week so will post some here.
Re: Group2/rally shell prep specification.
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:30 pm
by Jason_323i
One the front you could try an e30 m3 cab style reinforcement plate, between the top of the strut and the top of the return section to the inner wing
The rears I had crack around the base where they come through the inner wing.
Also I have thought about an mx5 style reinforcement on each side running from the front cross member to the Gearbox mount then done to the diff mount, connected to a strongstrut z3 butnstrut kind of lower brace.
Re: Group2/rally shell prep specification.
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 2:15 am
by nas80
I had that on my rx7. Mx5 is pretty much a mini version of that cars design... Its called a power plant frame. Works a treat..
Re: Group2/rally shell prep specification.
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 1:10 pm
by pandemonium001
e21-Mark wrote:Why are you not fitting a cage?
I have a pal down here in Cornwall, who has a fully prepped s50/3.0 powered rally e21. I'm going to take some photos this week so will post some here.
My car will probably never see track use to justify the inconvenience of a cage, plus i want to keep the use of my rear seats.
All good ideas raised above and i will endever to implement as much as i can, the strongstrut chassis brace looks easy enough to implement as well.
Re: Group2/rally shell prep specification.
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 1:26 pm
by pandemonium001
1 more added to the list.
http://www.nmcadigital.com/2012/08/13/g ... 12-camaro/
but 1 piece if possible and picking up front subframe, steering rack, chassis legs, trans mount points, rear subframe bolts, forward diff area.
thanks for the ideas guys.
Re: Group2/rally shell prep specification.
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 1:32 pm
by Jason_323i
You best get welding, it as an old and flexible shell by current standards
Re: Group2/rally shell prep specification.
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 2:44 pm
by nas80
What about making the inner wings at the front into better box section or reinforcing that section with a triangular bar to the A pillar
Re: Group2/rally shell prep specification.
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:21 pm
by pandemonium001
nas80 wrote:What about making the inner wings at the front into better box section or reinforcing that section with a triangular bar to the A pillar
How do you mean?
This thread pointing out the corvette alloy plate is a good idea
http://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-s ... ss-184326/
this is good as well
http://www.jdm-option.com/eng/feature/05_10/bodyup.html
Re: Group2/rally shell prep specification.
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 7:12 pm
by pandemonium001
nas80 wrote:What about making the inner wings at the front into better box section or reinforcing that section with a triangular bar to the A pillar
I see what you mean now the "triangle fender bars" never seen them before.
Re: Group2/rally shell prep specification.
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:46 pm
by nas80

yea i thought youd go in your garage n see what i meant.
Re: Group2/rally shell prep specification.
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 6:58 am
by Jason_323i
Also foam injection might help