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81 320i howling rear end

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:20 pm
by e21loraine
Hey guys I'm new to the forum and would like some help. I have two problems.
1-Howling in the rear
2-transmission whining in 1,2,3,and 5th gears never in 4th.
recently my car started to howl when I have no load on it, such as when I'm driving and let off the gas it starts to howl or whenever I press in the clutch , its not a continuous howl but on off on off as if something rotating and making it howl, its coming from the right side In the rear., this happened after I ran over an unexpected large pothole , any help would be greatly appreciated.

Now with my transmission, it whines through all gears but fourth, its a constant whine that goes away when I have no load on it, such as letting go of the gas as soon as I press it the whine comes back, its been bugging me for half a year now
Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated , thanks in advance!

Re: 81 320i howling rear end

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:32 pm
by e21-Mark
Whatever it is, it sounds like you need to change the gearbox.

Re: 81 320i howling rear end

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:42 pm
by pandemonium001
Gearbox will probably be the lay shaft bearings, 4th is commonly direct 1:1 drive to the output shaft so not running the defective bearings, but I could be wrong, easier just to swap it out.
rear wheel bearing?.
check your tyres I had a type r with toyo proxies fitted, they where wearing uneavenly, every other tread block causing a horrible rumble like a wheel bearing, swapped for dunlop problem solved.

Re: 81 320i howling rear end

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:12 pm
by Jeroen
Right oil & correct level in gearbox and diff? Jack up the rear to check the wheel bearings, and indeed, bad tyres can cause the same noise as a bad bearing!

Re: 81 320i howling rear end

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:51 am
by e21loraine
Thanks for the input guys, Tranny should be good on fluids , I filled it when I swapped clutch, I've been a bit suspicious of the diff being low, I should check it out, how would I check the wheel bearings?

Re: 81 320i howling rear end

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:06 am
by Jeroen
Jack up the rear, for example under the diff, make sure the wheels are off the ground. If you spin a wheel you should hear the bearing. Easier for the front as with the rear half the driveline spins along but ok. Another test could be to try a different set of wheels at the back, see if that resolves your issue.

Re: 81 320i howling rear end

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:50 pm
by pandemonium001
As above jack up, both hands at 3 and 9 o clock rock side to side can you feal any clunks or movements?
repeat hands at 12 and 6.

Re: 81 320i howling rear end

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:29 pm
by e21loraine
Alright guys, I did some investigation today, the wheel moves around side to side with the car jacked up, I can wiggle it any direction, so I took off the rim and the whole drum brake is wiggling around, what would this be? The wheel bearing? Or??? Any input would be nice and greatly appreciated, thanks!

Re: 81 320i howling rear end

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:57 am
by e21loraine
Does anyone have any input on it?

Re: 81 320i howling rear end

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:18 pm
by TopCat
sounds like a wheel bearing! NB my lack of mech knowledge! But if it is the axle- herewith my recommendation:

I really would recommend Phil at Road and Race Transmissions for all you back axle woes/rebuilds etc

They usually do Caterham racecars- but recently started on Yanks
http://www.mycaterham.com/66828/117416.html

Road & Race Transmissions
The Bullock Shed
Filston Farm
Shoreham, Kent
TN14 5JU

tel: 01959 525105
mobile: 07836 33388

I gave him Butch's Axle 2 years ago after it had been done by someone well known in the US world (and it was making the wrong noises) he rebuilt it and confirmed that it hadn't been set up 100%

I am shortly to send him Camilla's axle