
Project E3 is Go! 2014
- Grewham
- Upcoming E21 fanatic
- Posts: 67
- Joined: Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:36 pm
- My E21(s): 80 323i Factory Black 5 speed LSD
- Location: Pevensey Bay
Re: Project E3 is Go! 2014
Any updates on this, looking forward to reading it all 

No sweeter purfume than a mans own farts (Oscar Wilde)
Re: Project E3 is Go! 2014
HI well. I haven't updated the thread because theres mostly been research happening.
Stuff we need to be on top of such as
rubber seals, (they are completely knackered)
custom wiring (including what to do with the dash clocks)
air suspension fitting (this is possibly the easiest bit)
interior design
I have done some mechanical stuff - I took apart the spare subframe, turns out some e28 / e12 parts will fit because they haven't changed the design since the e3.
Also turns out that the e28 rear axle bolts straight in (near enough) too. which is good because we might have a better chance of getting a slipper and also allows a wider range of ratio which will be good for when we fit the 6 speed manual box.
Next week if all goes well ill be starting the tear down. that's always the best bit.
Stuff we need to be on top of such as
rubber seals, (they are completely knackered)
custom wiring (including what to do with the dash clocks)
air suspension fitting (this is possibly the easiest bit)
interior design
I have done some mechanical stuff - I took apart the spare subframe, turns out some e28 / e12 parts will fit because they haven't changed the design since the e3.
Also turns out that the e28 rear axle bolts straight in (near enough) too. which is good because we might have a better chance of getting a slipper and also allows a wider range of ratio which will be good for when we fit the 6 speed manual box.
Next week if all goes well ill be starting the tear down. that's always the best bit.
[img]http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a285/nasbucket/forumsig.jpg[/img]
- Grewham
- Upcoming E21 fanatic
- Posts: 67
- Joined: Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:36 pm
- My E21(s): 80 323i Factory Black 5 speed LSD
- Location: Pevensey Bay
Re: Project E3 is Go! 2014
This is going to be a cool family car 

No sweeter purfume than a mans own farts (Oscar Wilde)
-
- E21 Pro
- Posts: 527
- Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:19 pm
- My E21(s): E12 535i T (ish)
- Location: Scotland Ayrshire
Re: Project E3 is Go! 2014
If you want better front brakes check out my e12 front setup, cost very little an deasy to do. all oem parts
Re: Project E3 is Go! 2014
so this weekend managed to get started on the tear down, as this is an unfamiliar car I have been putting screws and little bits into individual freezer bags and tagging them with meaningful names such as "interior clips / screws off the seats n stuff" and "rear bumper / fuel tank and boot area" etc.
I am also tagging wires even though im not reusing the loom, this is so that I can work out which way the loom went when it is outside the car.
This adds time now but then when you go to put the car back together there is so much time saved I know I will thank myself later.
The car has been nice to me and coming apart fairly easily with no snapping bolts or nuts yet, the doors were a little bit of a pain cos the check strap pins are bent,
I took the windscreens out (not uploaded that yet) and found a tiny hole under the front screen and one under the rear, but they are nothing serious and in a nice easy to fix area, I can sort these out pretty easy, other then that I have not found any rust whatsoever yet.
Heres a link to a slideshow gallery, theres about 90 odd pics so far (some of them are for reference in case I need to put any wires back) I'll be updating the photostream as and when.
http://s13.photobucket.com/user/nasbuck ... shads%20e3
By the end of next weekend I'm aiming to remove the drivetrain and then I will have a completely stripped down shell and on the spit ready for engine mock up.
I am also tagging wires even though im not reusing the loom, this is so that I can work out which way the loom went when it is outside the car.
This adds time now but then when you go to put the car back together there is so much time saved I know I will thank myself later.
The car has been nice to me and coming apart fairly easily with no snapping bolts or nuts yet, the doors were a little bit of a pain cos the check strap pins are bent,
I took the windscreens out (not uploaded that yet) and found a tiny hole under the front screen and one under the rear, but they are nothing serious and in a nice easy to fix area, I can sort these out pretty easy, other then that I have not found any rust whatsoever yet.
Heres a link to a slideshow gallery, theres about 90 odd pics so far (some of them are for reference in case I need to put any wires back) I'll be updating the photostream as and when.
http://s13.photobucket.com/user/nasbuck ... shads%20e3
By the end of next weekend I'm aiming to remove the drivetrain and then I will have a completely stripped down shell and on the spit ready for engine mock up.
[img]http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a285/nasbucket/forumsig.jpg[/img]
- Jeroen
- Site Admin
- Posts: 28944
- Joined: Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:23 pm
- My E21(s): '81 323i Baur
- Location: The Netherlands
- Contact:
Re: Project E3 is Go! 2014
Nice, and thorough approach... will defo make your life easier later!
Regards/groeten, Jeroen
- Peter V.
- E21 VIP
- Posts: 11925
- Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:42 pm
- My E21(s): '82 320/6
- Location: Breda, Nederland
Re: Project E3 is Go! 2014
Good work.That must become a fine E3.
Gr Peter V.
.Some say he eats nuts and bolts for breakfast, all we know is he is called the carburetorman.
BMW E21, 1981 320/6 Ascot Grau.
BMW E85, 2004 Z4 2.5i Sterling Grau.
BMW F31, 2017 320dA EDE Luxuryline Mineral Grau.
.Some say he eats nuts and bolts for breakfast, all we know is he is called the carburetorman.
BMW E21, 1981 320/6 Ascot Grau.
BMW E85, 2004 Z4 2.5i Sterling Grau.
BMW F31, 2017 320dA EDE Luxuryline Mineral Grau.
Re: Project E3 is Go! 2014
Thanks for the positive comments, the strip down is going well, although now im running out of space to put all the stuff!
Took the glass out, the front one had a hole, this has been there some time and as a result has caused a bit of rust underneath the dash, its not too bad though


Theres a bit in the boot gutter, again not to serious.


Decided on taking the wings off because as we all know this is where rot loves to hide,

found this under the passenger side

other then that seems alright under here

drivers side seems solid and nothing to worry about

apart from this bit

so I made a start on taking out the donk. I undid everything and then took the wheels off and sat the front down on the wheeled trolley, there is no easy way of getting it out the top, also the m30 engine this car came with is a big old boat anchor.

i had to jack the car up very high and maxed out the jack, luckily there was just enough room to get the engine out underneath, I didn't get many pics of this process as its pretty precarious and I was on my own.



That's the fun part over now so now I have to start planning and measuring everything.
I have got my measuring tape out, and although I don't think there's going to be a problem getting the engine in I think that the main issues are going to be the gearbox tunnel, the standard gearbox is puny and the 330i 6 speed box I have here is a much bigger (5" bigger diameter) ill probably end up having to cut the tunnel.
stay tuned.
Took the glass out, the front one had a hole, this has been there some time and as a result has caused a bit of rust underneath the dash, its not too bad though


Theres a bit in the boot gutter, again not to serious.


Decided on taking the wings off because as we all know this is where rot loves to hide,

found this under the passenger side

other then that seems alright under here

drivers side seems solid and nothing to worry about

apart from this bit

so I made a start on taking out the donk. I undid everything and then took the wheels off and sat the front down on the wheeled trolley, there is no easy way of getting it out the top, also the m30 engine this car came with is a big old boat anchor.

i had to jack the car up very high and maxed out the jack, luckily there was just enough room to get the engine out underneath, I didn't get many pics of this process as its pretty precarious and I was on my own.



That's the fun part over now so now I have to start planning and measuring everything.
I have got my measuring tape out, and although I don't think there's going to be a problem getting the engine in I think that the main issues are going to be the gearbox tunnel, the standard gearbox is puny and the 330i 6 speed box I have here is a much bigger (5" bigger diameter) ill probably end up having to cut the tunnel.
stay tuned.
[img]http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a285/nasbucket/forumsig.jpg[/img]
- Grewham
- Upcoming E21 fanatic
- Posts: 67
- Joined: Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:36 pm
- My E21(s): 80 323i Factory Black 5 speed LSD
- Location: Pevensey Bay
Re: Project E3 is Go! 2014
The fun begins but a great start Nas 

No sweeter purfume than a mans own farts (Oscar Wilde)
- Jeroen
- Site Admin
- Posts: 28944
- Joined: Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:23 pm
- My E21(s): '81 323i Baur
- Location: The Netherlands
- Contact:
Re: Project E3 is Go! 2014
Nice progress and rust wise it isn't too bad at all!
Regards/groeten, Jeroen
Re: Project E3 is Go! 2014
very nice.
Re: Project E3 is Go! 2014
I should update this.
I have all the bits n bobs I need to make a start on fabrication of the engine .
Think the transmission tunnel is going to need slicing up though.
I have all the bits n bobs I need to make a start on fabrication of the engine .
Think the transmission tunnel is going to need slicing up though.
[img]http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a285/nasbucket/forumsig.jpg[/img]
Re: Project E3 is Go! 2014
my garage is full of e3, the stuff removed takes up about as much space as the car itself
i bought one of these, http://www.cjautos.eu/product_p/cl01.ht - makes life a lot more easy.
Stuck it under the car and then had a go at seeing if a 6 speed gearbox will fit the tunnel. Surprisingly it was actually nearly there.
but it wouldnt go high enough so was in the way of the steering bar

it seemed to be this bit causing some of my problem

decided to get my angle grinder out and cut around that bit and peeled it upward, dont worry itll get welded up and made to look like it never happened.

gearbox now has just about enough clearence around it self but will need a bit of manipulation with my hammer in certain places eg at the back cos im not happy with how close the mounts are too the sides.

it clears that steering bar now can go up a bit more if needs be.

gear stick is roughly in the right place although i can manipulate its position exactly later - box needs to come forward an inch or so in this pic..

got the sump out the box and then stuck it on the gearbox to see where the front of the engine will end up bags of clearence

doesnt even need chopping down for ground clearence. although i need to double check this stuff as i have an anti roll bar off the e3 LI we broke, this lower spec car didnt come with a front anti roll bar

i bought one of these, http://www.cjautos.eu/product_p/cl01.ht - makes life a lot more easy.
Stuck it under the car and then had a go at seeing if a 6 speed gearbox will fit the tunnel. Surprisingly it was actually nearly there.
but it wouldnt go high enough so was in the way of the steering bar

it seemed to be this bit causing some of my problem

decided to get my angle grinder out and cut around that bit and peeled it upward, dont worry itll get welded up and made to look like it never happened.

gearbox now has just about enough clearence around it self but will need a bit of manipulation with my hammer in certain places eg at the back cos im not happy with how close the mounts are too the sides.

it clears that steering bar now can go up a bit more if needs be.

gear stick is roughly in the right place although i can manipulate its position exactly later - box needs to come forward an inch or so in this pic..

got the sump out the box and then stuck it on the gearbox to see where the front of the engine will end up bags of clearence

doesnt even need chopping down for ground clearence. although i need to double check this stuff as i have an anti roll bar off the e3 LI we broke, this lower spec car didnt come with a front anti roll bar

Last edited by nas80 on Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.
[img]http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a285/nasbucket/forumsig.jpg[/img]