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very confused

Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 6:02 pm
by Ciaranclarke1
Basically I have a 76 316, I've bought a 1.6 m10 engine out of a 316 from a friend in Germany (I'm UK based) which was a facelift version, I managed to lose an engine mount bracket and I've finally got my hands on another pressed steel one, but the engine will not fit, the sump is just sitting on the subframe before it gets to the engine mounts.
Is there a difference between LHD/RHD brackets/suframes/ sumps? or a different sump on the facelift version of the car?
any help would be appreciated!

Re: very confused

Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 6:02 pm
by Ciaranclarke1
oh I'll add that the new pressed steel bracket was from a 320i m10 if that makes a difference!

Re: very confused

Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 8:13 pm
by nas80
You got the mounts in the correct mounting holes on the block?

Re: very confused

Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 8:17 pm
by Ciaranclarke1
as far as I know nas!

Re: very confused

Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 9:37 pm
by E21noob
A quick look at etk.cc tells me there was a change at 08.1978.

Useful info there - so if you are not familiar with it you should take a look.

Doesn't look like the 320i is any different from any other 4 cylinder model.

Sump is same on all M10 E21 models and does not seem there is any difference in LHD/RHD.

Also, this does not seem to be linked with the new subframe type which came 10.1978.

Do neither of the supports line up, or just your new one?

I can take some pics of my LHD 08.1978 318 sometime the next few days so you can compare. Maybe someone else can do the same for a RHD.

Re: very confused

Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 10:53 pm
by Ciaranclarke1
I will have to have a look on there when I'm home!

In terms of them lining up, they both line up perfectly and both sit separately on the mount, just not at the same time purely because of the sump hitting the subframe?

Re: very confused

Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 12:48 am
by Bigmeat
Where are you based? If you're near Birmingham you can come look at mine. It's converted from LHD to RHD running a 2.0 m10.

Re: very confused

Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 11:34 pm
by drjim
early vs late engine mounts are different. I have an early e21 (or may be 2002) block in the slug, had to get different mount for it. Subframes are about the same I think.

Re: very confused

Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 7:54 pm
by E21noob
Here you go. Engine support brackets LHD M10 07/1978:

Left side:
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Right side:
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Hope this is of any help :)

Re: very confused

Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 8:06 pm
by Ciaranclarke1
they're the same engine mounts as I have E21noob! I'm guessing I'll need the later engine mounts then? seems to make the most sense so far if it has worked the opposite way round with yours drjim?

Re: very confused

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 1:10 pm
by drjim
I may have the removed mount sat in my box of bits that is on a shelf in my old workshop but won't be down there until end of next week at the earliest.